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  <itunes:subtitle>Jim and Wes sit down to bust some ZFS myths and share their tips and tricks for getting the most out of the ultimate filesystem.</itunes:subtitle>
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Plus when not to use ZFS, the surprising way your disks are lying to you, and more! 
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    <![CDATA[<p>Jim and Wes sit down to bust some ZFS myths and share their tips and tricks for getting the most out of the ultimate filesystem.</p>

<p>Plus when not to use ZFS, the surprising way your disks are lying to you, and more!</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="ZFS - Ubuntu Wiki" rel="nofollow" href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS">ZFS - Ubuntu Wiki</a> &mdash; ZFS is a combined file system and logical volume manager designed and implemented by a team at Sun Microsystems led by Jeff Bonwick and Matthew Ahrens.</li><li><a title="Performance tuning - OpenZFS" rel="nofollow" href="http://open-zfs.org/wiki/Performance_tuning#Alignment_shift">Performance tuning - OpenZFS</a> &mdash; Make sure that you create your pools such that the vdevs have the correct alignment shift for your storage device's size. if dealing with flash media, this is going to be either 12 (4K sectors) or 13 (8K sectors).</li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Jim and Wes sit down to bust some ZFS myths and share their tips and tricks for getting the most out of the ultimate filesystem.</p>

<p>Plus when not to use ZFS, the surprising way your disks are lying to you, and more!</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="ZFS - Ubuntu Wiki" rel="nofollow" href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS">ZFS - Ubuntu Wiki</a> &mdash; ZFS is a combined file system and logical volume manager designed and implemented by a team at Sun Microsystems led by Jeff Bonwick and Matthew Ahrens.</li><li><a title="Performance tuning - OpenZFS" rel="nofollow" href="http://open-zfs.org/wiki/Performance_tuning#Alignment_shift">Performance tuning - OpenZFS</a> &mdash; Make sure that you create your pools such that the vdevs have the correct alignment shift for your storage device's size. if dealing with flash media, this is going to be either 12 (4K sectors) or 13 (8K sectors).</li></ul>]]>
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  <title>396: Floating Point Problems</title>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:45:00 -0800</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Jim and Wes are joined by OpenZFS developer Richard Yao to explain why the recent drama over Linux kernel 5.0 is no big deal, and how his fix for the underlying issue might actually make things faster.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Jim and Wes are joined by OpenZFS developer Richard Yao to explain why the recent drama over Linux kernel 5.0 is no big deal, and how his fix for the underlying issue might actually make things faster.
Plus the nitty-gritty details of vectorized optimizations and kernel preemption, and our thoughts on the future of the relationship between ZFS and Linux. Special Guest: Richard Yao.
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    <![CDATA[<p>Jim and Wes are joined by OpenZFS developer Richard Yao to explain why the recent drama over Linux kernel 5.0 is no big deal, and how his fix for the underlying issue might actually make things faster.</p>

<p>Plus the nitty-gritty details of vectorized optimizations and kernel preemption, and our thoughts on the future of the relationship between ZFS and Linux.</p><p>Special Guest: Richard Yao.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="LinuxFest Northwest 2019" rel="nofollow" href="https://linuxfestnorthwest.org/conferences/2019">LinuxFest Northwest 2019</a> &mdash; Join a bunch of JB hosts and community celebrating the 20th anniversary! </li><li><a title="Choose Linux" rel="nofollow" href="https://chooselinux.show/">Choose Linux</a> &mdash; The show that captures the excitement of discovering Linux.</li><li><a title="Linux 5.0: _kernel_fpu{begin,end} no longer exported" rel="nofollow" href="https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/issues/8259">Linux 5.0: _kernel_fpu{begin,end} no longer exported</a> &mdash; The latest kernels removed the old compatibility headers.</li><li><a title="ZFS On Linux Landing Workaround For Linux 5.0 Kernel Support" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&amp;px=ZFS-On-Linux-5.0-Workaround">ZFS On Linux Landing Workaround For Linux 5.0 Kernel Support</a> &mdash; So while these symbols are important for SIMD vectorized checksums for ZFS in the name of performance, with Linux 5.0+ they are not going to be exported for use by non-GPL modules. ZFS On Linux developer Tony Hutter has now staged a change that would disable vector instructions on Linux 5.0+ kernels.</li><li><a title="Re: x86/fpu: Don&#39;t export __kernel_fpu_{begin,end}()" rel="nofollow" href="https://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&amp;m=154714516832389">Re: x86/fpu: Don't export __kernel_fpu_{begin,end}()</a> &mdash; My tolerance for ZFS is pretty non-existant.  Sun explicitly did not want their code to work on Linux, so why would we do extra work to get their code to work properly?</li><li><a title="The future of ZFS in FreeBSD" rel="nofollow" href="https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2018-December/072422.html">The future of ZFS in FreeBSD</a> &mdash; This state of affairs has led to a general agreement among the stakeholders that I have spoken to that it makes sense to rebase FreeBSD's ZFS on ZoL. Brian Behlendorf has graciously encouraged me to add FreeBSD support directly so that we might all have a singleshared code base.</li><li><a title="Dephix: Kickoff to The Future" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.delphix.com/blog/kickoff-future-eko-2018">Dephix: Kickoff to The Future</a> &mdash; OpenZFS has grown over the last decade, and delivering our application on Linux provides great OpenZFS support while enabling higher velocity adoption of new environments.</li><li><a title="The future of ZFS on Linux [zfs-discuss] " rel="nofollow" href="http://list.zfsonlinux.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/2019-January/033300.html">The future of ZFS on Linux [zfs-discuss] </a> &mdash; 
Do you realize that we don’t actually need the symbols that the kernel removed. It All they do is save/restore of register state while turning off/on preemption. Nothing stops us from doing that ourselves. It is possible to implement our own substitutes using code from either Illumos or FreeBSD or even write our own. 

Honestly, I am beginning to think that my attempt to compromise with mainline gave the wrong impression. I am simply tired of this behavior by them and felt like reaching out to put an end to it. In a few weeks, we will likely be running on Linux 5.0 as if those symbols had never been removed because we will almost certainly have our own substitutes for them. Having to bloat our code because mainline won’t give us access to trivial functionality is annoying, but it is not the end of the world.</li><li><a title="LINUX Unplugged Episode 284: Free as in Get Out" rel="nofollow" href="https://linuxunplugged.com/284">LINUX Unplugged Episode 284: Free as in Get Out</a></li><li><a title="BSD Now 279: Future of ZFS" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.bsdnow.tv/episodes/2019_01_02-future_of_zfs">BSD Now 279: Future of ZFS</a></li><li><a title="BSD Now 157: ZFS, The “Universal” File-system" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.bsdnow.tv/episodes/2016_08_31-the_universal_filesystem">BSD Now 157: ZFS, The “Universal” File-system</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Jim and Wes are joined by OpenZFS developer Richard Yao to explain why the recent drama over Linux kernel 5.0 is no big deal, and how his fix for the underlying issue might actually make things faster.</p>

<p>Plus the nitty-gritty details of vectorized optimizations and kernel preemption, and our thoughts on the future of the relationship between ZFS and Linux.</p><p>Special Guest: Richard Yao.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="LinuxFest Northwest 2019" rel="nofollow" href="https://linuxfestnorthwest.org/conferences/2019">LinuxFest Northwest 2019</a> &mdash; Join a bunch of JB hosts and community celebrating the 20th anniversary! </li><li><a title="Choose Linux" rel="nofollow" href="https://chooselinux.show/">Choose Linux</a> &mdash; The show that captures the excitement of discovering Linux.</li><li><a title="Linux 5.0: _kernel_fpu{begin,end} no longer exported" rel="nofollow" href="https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/issues/8259">Linux 5.0: _kernel_fpu{begin,end} no longer exported</a> &mdash; The latest kernels removed the old compatibility headers.</li><li><a title="ZFS On Linux Landing Workaround For Linux 5.0 Kernel Support" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&amp;px=ZFS-On-Linux-5.0-Workaround">ZFS On Linux Landing Workaround For Linux 5.0 Kernel Support</a> &mdash; So while these symbols are important for SIMD vectorized checksums for ZFS in the name of performance, with Linux 5.0+ they are not going to be exported for use by non-GPL modules. ZFS On Linux developer Tony Hutter has now staged a change that would disable vector instructions on Linux 5.0+ kernels.</li><li><a title="Re: x86/fpu: Don&#39;t export __kernel_fpu_{begin,end}()" rel="nofollow" href="https://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&amp;m=154714516832389">Re: x86/fpu: Don't export __kernel_fpu_{begin,end}()</a> &mdash; My tolerance for ZFS is pretty non-existant.  Sun explicitly did not want their code to work on Linux, so why would we do extra work to get their code to work properly?</li><li><a title="The future of ZFS in FreeBSD" rel="nofollow" href="https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2018-December/072422.html">The future of ZFS in FreeBSD</a> &mdash; This state of affairs has led to a general agreement among the stakeholders that I have spoken to that it makes sense to rebase FreeBSD's ZFS on ZoL. Brian Behlendorf has graciously encouraged me to add FreeBSD support directly so that we might all have a singleshared code base.</li><li><a title="Dephix: Kickoff to The Future" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.delphix.com/blog/kickoff-future-eko-2018">Dephix: Kickoff to The Future</a> &mdash; OpenZFS has grown over the last decade, and delivering our application on Linux provides great OpenZFS support while enabling higher velocity adoption of new environments.</li><li><a title="The future of ZFS on Linux [zfs-discuss] " rel="nofollow" href="http://list.zfsonlinux.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/2019-January/033300.html">The future of ZFS on Linux [zfs-discuss] </a> &mdash; 
Do you realize that we don’t actually need the symbols that the kernel removed. It All they do is save/restore of register state while turning off/on preemption. Nothing stops us from doing that ourselves. It is possible to implement our own substitutes using code from either Illumos or FreeBSD or even write our own. 

Honestly, I am beginning to think that my attempt to compromise with mainline gave the wrong impression. I am simply tired of this behavior by them and felt like reaching out to put an end to it. In a few weeks, we will likely be running on Linux 5.0 as if those symbols had never been removed because we will almost certainly have our own substitutes for them. Having to bloat our code because mainline won’t give us access to trivial functionality is annoying, but it is not the end of the world.</li><li><a title="LINUX Unplugged Episode 284: Free as in Get Out" rel="nofollow" href="https://linuxunplugged.com/284">LINUX Unplugged Episode 284: Free as in Get Out</a></li><li><a title="BSD Now 279: Future of ZFS" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.bsdnow.tv/episodes/2019_01_02-future_of_zfs">BSD Now 279: Future of ZFS</a></li><li><a title="BSD Now 157: ZFS, The “Universal” File-system" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.bsdnow.tv/episodes/2016_08_31-the_universal_filesystem">BSD Now 157: ZFS, The “Universal” File-system</a></li></ul>]]>
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